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Gregg vs Georgia (1976)
For the Majority, what are the 3 questions that need answering? |
1) Is the death penalty consistent with "current standards of decency" (Unusual)?
2) Does the death penalty serve reasonable social purposes? (Is it good for society: utilitarian) 3) Is the death penalty excessive (cruel)? |
Gregg vs Georgia (1976)
What is the Majority's answer to the first question: Is the death penalty consistent with "current standards of decency" (Unusual)? |
Yes (35 states, Juries)
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Gregg vs Georgia (1976)
What is the Majority's answer to the second question: Does the death penalty serve reasonable social purposes? (Is it good for society: utilitarian) |
Yes, Retribution: deserved punishment, stops vigilantism
Deterrence |
Gregg vs Georgia (1976)
What is the Majority's answer to the third question: Is the death penalty excessive (cruel)? |
No, Extreme punishment reserved for extreme crime
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Gregg vs Georgia (1976)
For the Minority, what are the 2 questions that need answering? |
1) Is the Death Penalty an excessive punishment?
2) Does Death Penalty conflict with society's standards of decency (unusual)? |
Gregg vs Georgia (1976)
What is the Minority's answer to the first question: Is the Death Penalty an excessive punishment? |
Yes,
Retribution is excessive: It is a total denial of the person's human dignity, which the 8th amendment disallows; No evidence that "life in prison" will lead to vigilantism As a deterrent the Death Penalty is excessive: No evidence that it's a deterrent (Not needed = excessive) |
Gregg vs Georgia (1976)
What is the Minority's answer to the first question: Does Death Penalty conflict with society's standards of decency (unusual)? |
A truly informed society would say 'yes.' So it would be unusual.
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Ernest Van Den Haag
What is Van Den Haag's best best argument on deterrence? |
Bet #1: Death Penalty deters and instate it.
Bet #2: Death Penalty does not deter and do not instate. |
Ernest Van Den Haag
What are the 2 outcomes of the bet #1? (Death Penalty deters and instate it.) |
1) It does deter and instate it (Kills murderers and saves innocents)
2) It does not deter and instate it (Kills murderers w/o reducing murder rate) |
Ernest Van Den Haag
What are the 2 outcomes of the bet #2? (Death Penalty does not deter and do not instate.) |
1) It does deter and do not instate (Saves murderers, but more innocents are killed)
2) It does not deter and do not instate (Kills no murderers and does not increase murder rate) |
Ernest Van Den Haag
What is the risk in taking bet #2? (Death Penalty does not deter and do not instate.) |
Innocent lives being killed
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Ernest Van Den Haag
What is the risk in taking bet #1? ( Death Penalty deters and instate it. ) |
Killing murderers while admittedly getting no deterrent effect (Van Den Haag's choice)
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Ernest Van Den Haag
What is possible criticism of Van Den Haag's best bet argument for the Death Penalty? |
1) We don't know whether death penalty deters, so we don't know for sure whether it saves innocent lives
2) We know that many people on death row are innocent, so instating does risk innocent lives 3) Evidence is much stronger that having the death penalty risks innocent lives than not having the death penalty 4) Therefore, Van Den Haag ought to be against the death penalty if he's worried about saving innocent lives |
Ernest Van Den Haag
What are some examples of maldistribution of the death penalty? |
1) When the victim is white:(a) defendant more likely to receive death penalty that if the victim is black (b) higher probability if killer is black (Kentucky)(c) District Attorneys were six times more likely to seek death penalty (Georgia 1976-1990)
2) Geographical: Some states do not have the death penalty 3) Decade: Punishments different for like crimes in different times in history |
Ernest Van Den Haag
What is Van Den Haag's response to maldistribution? |
- Maldistribution does not matter
- Suppose that some escape Capital Punishment for whatever reason, at least we gave some what they deserved, Death. |